Kevin M. Levin attempts to talk down to Sarah Jones of the "New Republic" magazine

Kevin M. Levin attempts to patronize Sarah Jones of the "New Republic." You can read the exchange here on Twitter if you are a member. I printed it out for my records.

https://twitter.com/KevinLevin/status/864241228333940737

In this conversation he is the expert talking down to Sarah Jones. He also uses his usual tactic avoiding debate on the issues by either questioning the competency of the individual or their right to debate the issue.

You really have to read the entire series this is one example. Not the capitalization of "WHY" and the expression "you would do well to consider."

Levin pulls out what he thinks will flatten Jones by asking whether she has been to Richmond. If Jones hasn't then she is some type of outside agitator. This is the theme of "Sweet Home Alabama" that Jones is an outsider.

Turns out that Sarah Jones is from Virginia and has been to Richmond many times.

Then it is more patronizing stuff.

Levin's patronizing of Sarah Jones is this article by Jones in New Republic.
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/142710/yes-tear-confederate-monuments

Sarah Jones in the article is basically calling Gary Shapiro of the University of Richmond a fool. She doesn't use the term, just calls his arguments "deeply confused."

Though Shapiro does not deny the horrors of slavery or hold up the Confederacy as an entity worthy of praise, his argument is deeply confused. If these monuments are “memorials,” whom do they memorialize? Certainly not the victims of slavery.

Levin blogs on this encounter.
http://cwmemory.com/2017/05/15/is-richmond-next/

From his blog:

I do not mean to suggest that all parties in Richmond are satisfied or that mistakes have not been made. What I do think is important to acknowledge is that the city has made a concerted effort to think carefully about how history is interpreted and how it is commemorated in public spaces. None of this is acknowledged in the New Republic piece.

Turns out that Sarah Jones doesn't think much of what the little cliques in Richmond have done.

And Levin is bent out of shape that Sarah Jones doesn't think much of the efforts of the local historical societies and what cliques they make up and of which he is in good standing.

He can't comprehend that some figures in the larger national establishment are just coming out  and saying these statues need to go and really don't care what rationalizations or excuses or clever strategems the local historical cliques have come up with.

I wonder how long it is going to be before The Atlantic decides that Levin is retrograde.

Convoluted stuff and nonsense arguments aren't going to convince people other than those who love the Confederacy or fear loss of white control over the landscape. That is white nationalists and banal white nationalists. http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/breaking-the-white-nation.html

New Republic article asks to celebrate Appomattox and reject the Lost Cause UPDATE: Brian Beutler has follow up article

The New Republic article by Brian Beutler is online and available at this link:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121406/civil-war-150th-anniversary-confederacy-defeat-should-be-holiday

It is a total rejection of the Lost Cause interpretation of the Civil War and the Confederacy and rejects totally accommodation with the Lost Cause.

Some quotes:

People of good faith can argue over whether these kinds of symbolic concessions (as opposed to the concrete ones, which consigned emancipated slaves to a century of sanctioned depredations) were wise or necessary means to the end of preserving the Union. Some of them weren't concessions at all, so much as insufficient commitment on the part of Northerners to the livelihood of blacks in the South. "[A]s Northern Republican Party became more conservative," historian Eric Foner wrote recently, "Reconstruction came to be seen as a misguided attempt to uplift the lower classes of society." But 150 years on, we know that subjugation is a moral obscenity, and that there's no valid modern argument for spitshining the Confederacy.

And:

By contrast, the Union’s victory, and the abolition of slavery, both merit celebration as exemplars of American improvement and renewal, even if many Unionists weren’t moral heroes. These twin accomplishments are as worthy of a federal holiday as any holiday we already celebrate. So let's name April 9 New Birth of Freedom Day. And if that creates too much paid leave for government workers, we could swap out Columbus Day. We don't yet live in the America Obama described, but we should strive to.

In a better America, we’d all have Thursday off. And there would be fireworks.

Brian Beutler  is a Senior Editor of New Republic, it seems that the New Republic is taking a hardline against the Lost Cause.

UPDATE: This is a follow up article that Brian Beutler did in response to some of the res

ponse to his article.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121477/civil-war-150th-anniversary-southerners-should-celebrate-union

Kevin Levin has a blog complaining about Brian Beutler also. I think when push comes to shove we find out who Levin really is.

http://cwmemory.com/2015/04/07/why-confederate-defeat-does-need-to-be-a-national-holiday/

As usual Levin doesn't address the points raised the article he doesn't like, but instead disparages the author and Levin is his usual condescending self.  Levin wants the reader to know that Beutler isn't likely to be a member of the League of Distinguished Civil War historians like himself.

I have always asserted that by pressing on this issue about celebrating the Confederacy you would be able to reveal who people really are as opposed to whom they think they are or might profess themselves to be.

http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/breaking-the-white-nation.html

Ron Paul news coming up! A story I contributed to. Update.

Update: This is a link to the article. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/angry-white-man. It originally was either behind a paywall or didn't have a link specifically to it.

I am updating this as I find items all day today. 1/8/08.

The article and the newsletters and the other documents are online now at www.tnr.com .

The video of Jamie Kirchick is at http://www.msnbc.com/ in the video section.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22545697#22545697

It is also online at YouTube at:

http://youtube.com/profile?user=antironpaulcom

Radio interview with Jamie Kirchick http://youtube.com/watch?v=Whqtv9D9g-Y

I helped supply material for this story. In particular the secession convention information and a lot of the Ludwig von Mises Institute information. http://www.mises.org/

I have been holding back until Jamie Kirchick story went public.

The head of the Ludwig von Mises Institute is Lew Rockwell and he has a web site http://www.lewrockwell.com/ which you can see is a sort of Ron Paul Internet headquarters.

Jamie Kirchick's story is going online tomorrow afternoon at the http://www.tnr.com/ website.

I hope they have the secession convention mailing with Ron Paul's picture on it up on the web site.

Neo-Confederates support Ron Paul because he is one of their own.

Of course the Ron Paul supporters will have all sorts of rationalizations and excuses. Here is a link to a web site with the loopy rationalizations of Ron Paul supporters.
http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/07/ron-paul-just-trashed-on-msnbc/

Evidently Ron Paul supporters are given to Brownshirt tactics as shown in this video. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d4_1199722032&p=1 Not a lot of "love" or "evol" is it?

One reason they think that they can rationalize that Ron Paul is not a racist, is the stereotype that racists are only belligerent rude people lacking middle class decorum. I explain this in my essay on banal white nationalism. www.templeofdemocracy.com/breaking.htm

I am non-partisan and readers can read information on Bill Clinton at my website at this URL.

http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/presidentialcandidates2008.htm