Sunday, March 15, 2009

Council of Illiterate Conservative Citizens; Updated, one error corrected, one clung to.

The Council of Conservative Citizens is up in arms over a History Channel show on the Punic wars and Carthage. They claim that Hannibal is being portrayed as sub-Saharan African.

The item is at:

Irately they proclaim:

"Afro-centrists are always scavenging about for crumbs to glorify a Negro history that never existed. The city-state of Carthage was Greek, not Sub-Sahara African. The inhabitants of North Africa at the time of Hannibal were white, not black. The Berbers of Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia are still Caucasoid, not black."

The Carthaginians were Phoenician, not Greek! Anyone who has even a passing knowledge of ancient history knows this. I have no idea why the race of the Berbers is brought up either. Berbers are not some modern day group descended from Phoenicians. They are not descended from the Greeks either but are a people indigenous to Africa.

The above is fairly representative of what passes for the Council of Conservative Citizens' historical analysis, a mental process thrashing with rage, rather than reason.


Well the post on the CofCC blog has been updated, they seem to realize the Carthaginians were Phoenician. However, they are still rattling on about Berbers. The Phoenicians weren't Berbers either. They immigrated from the eastern coast of the Mediterraneans and were the competitors of the Greeks in the ancient world. You would have to have slept through your ancient history classes not to know this. However, the hysteric historians don't seem to realize this.

Maybe "Southern Partisan" is dead after all.

There hasn't been an issue of the Southern Partisan (SP) for some time, about a year. I was doing some Internet researching and I stumbled across this post reported to be from Tim Manning Jr., former Assistant Editor of SP and dated Jan. 2008.

Some notable statements (any errors in the original) in the posting are:

"I resigned from Southern Partisan today. Here’s why. It’s going nowhere. The Editor is a moron. There are reasons to admire someone without a college education, but with Chris Sullivan, this is not the case. He dropped out of Furman during his first semester."

"In reality, you can immediately determine anything that is actually written by the Editor by his eighth-grade level literary skills."

"Southern Partisan subscriptions were over 10,000 when they first hired Sullivan almost 10 years ago. Today, there are barely 2,900 paid subscribers. Sullivan refuses to publish on time and to run a functional and newsworthy or intelligent website. He once told me he had never read I’ll Take My Stand."

I did note that Google gives this URL for Manning and Southern Partisan, but it it has been pulled.

Tim Manning evidently tried to start up his proposed online publication, The Southerner, but it seems to be gone also, though in the Internet Archives a single capture exists.

The Internet Archive (Way back machine) shows that this web location was first used for a student newspaper for South High School in Minneapolis, from 2002 to 2005, but that in 2008 Manning did set up

It seems that Tim Manning Jr.'s The Southerner lasted less than a month. The website no longer exists and the Way Back machine only has a single Jan. 2008 archive. It seems to have been a blog format.

So it could well be that the Southern Partisan has died. It would be a strategic victory over neo-Confederacy. Manning, in this reputed Manning post, claims that the number of paid subscribers has dropped from over 10,000 to 2,900.
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